oversight committee, part of the committee for writing tax laws. we have douglas holtz he didn't with us. regarding how the middle class will be treated with obamacare, it turns out the promises are not true. >> i think that is unmistakable. obamacare has a lot of tax in it. this is $800 billion in taxes and when you hear that that is kind of a number, you wonder who will foot the bill. a lot of these will turn out to be higher insurance premiums, some of them will be taxes directly on the policy. a lot of them are going to harm economic growth. in the end, we know how many workers are out there and we know how poor the income growth has been. gerri: even now, people don't really understand what we are going to be on the hook for. health insurance premiums taxes, which you've just mentied, medical device taxes, it is quick to be devastating to companies. people are going to lose jobs and employer individual insurance is going to rising costs as well. we were promised that it wasn't going to raise the deficit. but will it? >> i don't see others how there's any way that they can't raise th